The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resource wants your opinion on the 2010 whitetail deer season. All hunters should take five minutes of their time to voice their thoughts and opinions on Wisconsin DNR 2010 whitetail season proposal. The opinion collection ends November 3rd, 2009. The proposed season(s) are noted below and here is the link to submit your comments.
http://doa.wi.gov/DNRSurveys/TakeSurvey.aspx?SurveyID=8l0H992
Overview
The proposed season framework includes:
November firearm season - Statewide 16-day beginning two Saturdays prior to the Thanksgiving holiday. CWD zone would use the same dates. Season would be the normal bucks plus variable quota system.
Archery seasons - Open statewide on the Saturday closest to September 15 and continues through the Thursday immediately prior to November firearm season. Statewide season reopens on first day of the November gun season and continuing through the second Sunday in January. In herd-control units, the archery season would continue through January 31. Bonus buck incentive (see below) for all hunters beginning December 26 through January 31 in herd control units. CWD zone would use the same dates.
Youth season - Statewide 5-day either-sex season beginning the second Saturday in October. Saturday through Wednesday. Dates will be the same as 4. and 5.
Early muzzleloader season - Statewide 5-day, antlerless-only by permit beginning the second Saturday in October. Saturday through Wednesday. Dates will be the same as 3. and 5.
October herd control firearm seasons - Herd control units only. 5-day, antlerless-only season beginning the second Saturday in October. CWD October season would use same dates. Saturday through Wednesday. Dates will be the same as 3. and 4.
October herd control firearm seasons in the Kettle Moraine State Forest - When October herd control seasons are held on lands that are part of the Kettle Moraine State Forest, the five-day season on Kettle Moraine State Forest property will begin on the Thursday nearest October 27.
Late muzzleloader season - Statewide 7-day season beginning the Monday immediately following the November firearm season (Bucks plus quota). CWD zone would use the same dates.
December firearm season - Central Forest & Farmland zones. 4-day, antlerless-only season beginning the Thursday immediately following the late muzzleloader season. Appropriate antlerless permit required. CWD zone would use the same dates.
Holiday herd control firearm season - Central Forest & Farmland zones. Herd control units only, 10-day antlerless season with a bonus buck incentive beginning December 26th.
CWD zone - same dates as outlined above. EAB season structure remains in effect in the CWD zone.
Bonus Buck Incentive - Hunters harvesting an antlerless deer in herd control units after December 25th will receive a bonus buck tag valid through the end of all deer seasons.
Public land tags - Herd control units only - Herd control tags will be specific to public or private lands. Public land tags will be limited based on the proportion of deer range under state, county, or federal ownership within herd control units.
Consider that this proposal is an alternative to the current season structure including Earn-a-Buck. Do not consider this proposal only in reference to a 9-day gun season. When you consider your support for or opposition to this proposal, please consider it in the context of comparing this proposal to the herd management tools that are currently in place including Earn-a-Buck. This proposal is intended to be an alternative herd control tool for a two year trial period.
Source: Wisconsin Department of Natural Resource
http://doa.wi.gov/DNRSurveys/TakeSurvey.aspx?SurveyID=8l0H992
Honestly, I am biased. I love bow hunting and really could care less about gun season. I like the current structure and don't wish for it to change.
ReplyDeleteIf it must be changed;
1. Please push the regular gun season later and not sooner. As a bow hunter, I do not want the gun hunt to interfere with a possible late rut.
2.As a man who is part of a smaller sized deer camp, we do not have enough people to put together successful "drives". After the opening weekend, mature deer stay bedded down pretty well. Without drives, I don't see anything.
If anything needs to change, the pressure to kill does needs to let up. The properties around me take a ridiculous amount of does. In my opinion, deer numbers are down and the pressure to thin the herd needs to lighten up.
We do not need a 16 day deer gun season. We need to intoduce a crossbow season. It would drive up revenue for dnr plus put archers in a class when it gets cold for easy pull. Doe's need a rest of being killed off. They have been hammerd on way to long. I also feel bucks should have a limit also at least 6 point or bigger. for at least 2 years, I am an avid hunter and outdoorsman. we need to get our trophy bucks back up to class. . more bear tags should be sold and the wolf should be taken off indangerd list. Coyotes should be allowed to be shot in riffle season. like the old days. If some one shoots a wolf due to mistaken coyote they shouldnt be hunting with a firearm anyway, and should be fined accordingly. coyote population has exploded,
ReplyDeletenoone hardly hunts them anymore, the old days when we could shoot them during rifle season took care of that problem. so as a hunter im willing to sacrafice a few years to see our bucks get to a size we are proud to hang on our walls again.
we need revinue for our locals. I think everyone seen the impact at what we have all done to our deer herd. There are many factors in the deer herd . car kills ,sickness ,starvation poaching,preditors. who says we still cant hunt for 6points or bigger bucks. We all like our venison. But us hunters need to cut back. We can still go hunting , enjoy the outdoors but lets be picky in what we bring home for a few years. as far as the youth hunt its a good idea. but they should have the same time zones as the regular hunting . Why should us, long time hunters let the kids shoot our big bucks when its warm out. Let them freeze like the rest of us thats hunting plus it puts more people in the woods at the same time pushing more deer. That just gives them faulse truth about the sport. When I was little my dad put my on a stump and said sit here. It was cold and nasty. We need to quit bending over backwards to get kids off nintendo, and into the woods. IF their father or mother is a hunter they will be to, thats just the way it is.
the dnr is full of shit. we don't need a longer gun season there aren't enough deer out there. plus get rid of the youth hunt and zone t hunts in october it is ruinning the deer hunting in this state. all they want to do is kill them all off which is bullshit.we need to take a big look at the picture want we have now doesn't work and to make the gun season longer is only going to hurt the deer herd even more.the bottom line is us as hunters need to take a step back think to r selves do we only care about now or do we care about the future, if we only care about now then there isn't going to be future ib deer hunting in this state
ReplyDeletethe youth hunt is good,you dumb fucker!!! I hate how some bowhunters complain about the youth hunt.
ReplyDeleteWisconsin bucks are way too smart for average hunters. I feel the DNR should start farming deer and release them with tags, just like how you tag fishes. Tag it with satellite trackers or GPS, both bucks and does, just farm them for a year and release them all over the state in random locations, prefer in the central part so them can go wherever they want. Then if we kill a deer with tag, we will turn the tag in, provide blood and tissue sample for research purpose. And the deer spread disease over the bait pile is not proven. Department of no returns are hurting the deer population more than the hunters. You need to have someone dress up as a doe, put bunch of doe piss on the person and send it out to the field to do some real research.
ReplyDeleteEarn a buck destroyed the deer population in unit 59c. I was born & raised in Wisconsin but have moved due to work. Still come back as a non resident and have bow hunted hard for a week the past 2 seasons and have seen 6 bucks on each trip. (no does). while seeing bucks is exciting, the lack of does makes me wonder what the future holds for the wisconsin deer herd. looks to me like the insurance companies and the DNR got what they wanted. LEAVE THE DOES ALONE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS! (except for the youth hunt. previous post is right on target....youth hunt helps ensure the continuation of the hunting tradition!)
ReplyDeleteSo sick of "trophy" hunters. You don't care about the deer herd in general. All you care about is something to hang on your stinkin wall! Some people prefer venison to beef and some even rely on it as their only source of meat. To limit the shooting of bucks to 6 points or larger and eliminate the shooting of does only benefits you sorry trophy hunters.
ReplyDeleteBeing a bow hunter and muzzle loader hunter I am biased to anything that screws up the rut. Keep things as they are espicially the youth hunt. I hunt alone and at a time when deer are in a more natural mode. It centers on seasonal changes but the most interesting part is the larger number of deer I see compared to gun season. I realize drivers will see more deer but my point is there are more deer out there then you think when you observe them unmolested. Gun hunters will disagree and this varies by area but everyone has an opnion. The DNR is way off on their Bear count and should increase the number of tags, the only reason numbers are even where they are at in my area "Black is DOWN'. Period!!!
ReplyDeletestop killing the does you idiots i think each hunter should only be allowed to kill one doe per year and a total of two or three deer per year and who gives a shit what weapon you use.
ReplyDeleteI am the same guy who posted the archery/muzzleloader preference. I agree with the last post. do alot of game plots and manange according to common sense and not DNR ideology. As a "stewart" of the land you get to know alot about what goes on out there. You are totally correct when you say give the Does a break. If the truth be known you would be a better manager by taking the fawn and letting the productive Doe go. Now this whole issue is going to depend on your herd. there are times that you need to takeout a buck that will pass on bad genetics, sad but true. There are times when you are better off taking a 6 or 8 pointer. The Doe problem comes into play when the "trophy boys" want horns and the doe to buck ratio doesn't give them the results they want. Fact of life, what is your land deer population capacity. I have seen and put down starving fawns in the far north and also watched packs of wolves slaughter yarded deer. Game management is not EAB or introducing the "Fisher" to control the porcupine problem that never exsited only to diminish to near extinction, our grouse. Game mangement is a little more common sense oriented which leaves the DNR out as they do not have the mentality or funds to micro manange.
ReplyDeletehow can the DNR control the deer heard without having access to all lands. I DID NOT HUNT THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF DEER ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LANDS.Ask the farmer, the milk hauler, the rural delivery drivers. Yes there are to many deer in some areas but those are exceptions because those lands do not allow hunting. Even your people recognize this , yet continue to include these lands when counting deer.The money wasted on CWD should be put to use to work with farmers to bring back natural cover and expand the phesant populations as the case with Iowa and South Dekota.The income potential for the state would be huge. I do find that the state has done an excellent job with the introduction of wild trukeys.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree once again with the last post. CWD is really bullshit. Rather then destroy thousands of deer that might cause a problem if you ate the "spine", which I do daily, they could at least justify their sillines by offering these deer to starving people in other countries. The scenerio would be something like this. "Well starving person, we in Wisconsin are killing thousands of lbs of meat on the chance it may harm you, now we have not had anyone really die from this but IT could happen. If you don't wann't the meat and rather starve, we will continue to mass slaughter them, burn and bury them." How many starving people would pass on this deal? This maybe getting off the subject a bit but it fits the forum.
ReplyDeleteThe herd is dessimated. In early 90s, I would see 75-100 deer on opening gun season weekend. Now I see 1, maybe 2 in those same woods (zone 55). The DNR says the herd is bigger now?! WTF? That's some crazy modeling they're doing to come to that hair-brain conclusion. The answer: Stop killing all the does. You're not killing 1 deer - you're taking at least 5 (the harvested one and two fawn for each of the next 2 years or more). The DNR has pleased the insurance lobby but they're on the verge of completely ruining deer hunting in WI. I was looking forward to hunting with my son one day. I'm beginning to wonder if there will be any deer left. Leave the does alone for at least 3 years and maybe we can get the herd back to the levels of the "good old days". The money will follow - the obvious (unspoken) factor driving the ludacrous BS being spewn by the inept and/or in-the-tank DNR.
ReplyDeleteWell here it is, the end of the season and what a mixed bag. We up north fell prey to the DNR slaughter plan several years back and we have recovered somewhat so i can understand what you guys in the east and central are going through. The CWD is so much bullshit and then add the EAB and don't kill the wolf and know we have a serious coyote problem. I am 62 years old and have hunted since I was 12 years old, back in the days they closed everything for 9 days. I will admit we have come a long way from that period as to see a "deer" back then was something. I believe there are number of reasons. number 1, when baiting became popular every tourist and elderly person in the area were feeding deer as it was fun to watch. In reality, they were providing many of these Northern deer with a life line. Now I realize there will be plenty of flack because all these deer feeding from this vast amount of corn these people are putting out is causing, "social disease" I guess nobody remembers when we had large acorn crops and it was nothing to see 6 deer feeding under several oaks? I lived for gun season, now I bow hunt and muzzleload and sleep in the 9 days of gun season, why beat yourself up to see shit, unless you are a entrenched deer camp guy who goes for the "hang out shit". Sorry to be so abrupt but deer hunting is beginning to suck.. Life long hunter. I watched the ducks go, then the grouse and now the deer...
ReplyDeletedepart of no sense resourses. They killed all the deer. Great job.....
ReplyDeletei think there was some very poor management of deer,we had one of the best deer herds in years,even with the wolves and bears.but all the free tags and 2 dollar tags was insane,now where in bucks only unit[13]and u cant hardly find a deer unless the in a yard with a feeder.i think there should be some jobs lost over it.i bet licence sales will be down next year[watch and see]
ReplyDeleteI am going to start a facebook group page that basically calls for hunters to demand the WI DNR to ban all doe killing (except for youth hunters) for 3 years. Our deer herd is at ridicoulously all time low. Hunters we have to do something before its too late if its not too late already. The DNT is full of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its time to march on Madison and take our hunting back!!!
ReplyDeletethey need to make rifle use an option in Fond du lac cty. can't tell you how many deer ,i could not reach with the darn shotgun may as well have a sling shot.
ReplyDeleteTHIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT I DID NOT SEE A DEER ALL SEASON. I TOOK 1 DAY OFF IN EACH SEASON (THANKSGIVING) OTHERWISE I WAS IN THE WOODS MOST OF THE DAY EVERYDAY.I DONT EXPECT TO SEE DEER EVERYDAY BUT THIS IS GETTING CRAZY.I AM TAKING NEXT YEAR OFF AND MAYBE MORE UNTIL I SEE SOMETHING CHANGE.I HAVE BOUGHT A PATRONS LIC. FOR THE LAST 5-7 YEARS NOT NEXT YEAR CANT FIND MANY PHEASENT EITHER.THE DNR ADMITTED THEY MISCOUNTED DEER AND YET THEY ARE STILL BASICLY GIVING OUT AS MANY TAGS AS YOU WANT TO BUY,WHAT THE F--- IS THAT!SORRY DNR BUT THINGS MUST CHANGE BEFORE YOU GET ANY MORE OF MY MONEY FOR A WHILE.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anonymous. Hunted everyday but Thanksgiving in the afternoon. Saw only two deer the whole time. And the deer I saw were before daybreak. Second season in a row no deer.
ReplyDeleteOur group saw plenty of deer this year in Waupaca county. However, 2008 and 2009 really stunk. I think the herd is recovering on its own in our area which still allows does to be taken and I hope this trend continues. Some really nice bucks were taken as well. I think this shows it really varies by area.
ReplyDeleteI think most of you are missing the real problem with the deer herd. The DNR couid go back to the 4 person party tag for does and that still would not matter until the real problem is fixed. That being to many WOLFS,BEARS. Its a fact that a pack of 5-8 wolfs eat 3 to 5 deer a week maybe more.They are not eating blue berries and rabbits. And bears smellout and eat fawns when frist dropped. I don't know do the math. The DNR thinks there is close 700 wolfs in the state. Give or take. We hunt the same area in jackson co. were the feds came in and killed the Bear bluff wolf pack. ( type in feds kill wisconsin wolf pack) So you can say save small bucks and let them get big so you can hang them on the wall or don't shoot the does. Think about what the real problem is. Wolfs are at the top of the food chain. And the populations will just keep growing.
ReplyDeleteStop crop damege tags!Framers get paid for the deer that are shot on these tags. this is public record and in my area it totals tens of thousand of dollarsn per farmer. this has become an income for these farmer in stead of a suplement the deer are getting blamed for all the "crop damage" has anyone seen what a bear can do to a corn feild or a flock of 20 or 30 turkeys or snd hill cranes coon the list goes on but againe the deer get the blame for it all now the farmers in my area are haveing a hard time filling their deer quota and are asking land owners whose land borders theres if they could help them fill there tags, because if the tags are not filled they will have to repay money for every tag not filled. whats this tell you.I think Farmers should farm and stop looking for a hand out and the DNR stop useing the deer as a scape gote
ReplyDeleteI can't believe you selfish hunters that have a problem with the kids getting a shot to get a deer. This gives the moms and dad hunters a chance to teach the kids how to hunt. I bet my son at the age of 13 is a better hunter than most because I had the chance to sit with him and teach him the right way the first time. He is 13 and has all ready taken 3 bucks and passes on bucks that most would shoot. Let's not be selfish and wreck something the DNR did good. The youth hunt is a great way to keep the tradition alive.
ReplyDeleteIt's not only the DNR, Congress should realize that hunting season pulls in millions of dollars each year. If they continue to allow the DNR to practice their current management techniques it will adversely impact the economy of Wisconsin more so than it has already. Wisconsin businesses are losing millions of dollars because of this. It is time the money stops going to the DNR and back to the businesses in the State of Wisconsin. With this era of economic crisis we cannot afford businesses to lose money because of the ineptness of the Wisconsin DNR. Again, State representative should pull their heads out of the sand and put a stop to this.
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